Sunday, January 18, 2015

New car seats! Updated

Back in September, we got car seats. They replace the ones mom made that were comfy but not especially safe. These are the safest ones on the market as of now. They are even crash tested!

These are Pupsavers.

The way they work in a collision is that they catch the dog like a catcher's mitt. You can't really see , but there's a strap in the middle of the seat that you attach to a harness or a collar. You use the shoulder seat belt to keep the seat in place.  

Petunia is not a big fan of her seat. However, she wasn't a fan of her other one either. She wants to be in the front seat with Tallulah. But she stays in unless she wiggles out of her harness. 

As of now, they still only make them for the right side of a car. We are hoping that they will make a modification to alter the seat belt straps so that you can use them on the left side of the car, too. 

We hope to never need them, but just in case, we are better protected. 

Now, when you click on the link for prices, you will probably choke a little. Mom sure did. Man, stuff is expensive! But if you do some serious hunting, you can find better prices. We got ours through QVC for much less. It doesn't look like they are available any longer though. 

These will work great for bigger cars than our little Ford Focus. The front seat one sticks out over the cup holder somewhat. A hard cup like a Thermos-y type works fine. The paper cups from fast food places have been a little of a problem, but nothing too terrible. 

They are not machine washable, only spot cleaning. Which means no eating in the car for us. So far, mom's been able to vacuum up crumbs and popcorn kernels easily. 

Mom keeps them in place, but they are medium difficult to install/reinstall. Probably, the more you do it, the easier it would be. 

If you have any questions for us, leave them in the comments!

A little clarification from the comments.
The Center for Pet Safety is a non-profit organization that tests pet products specifically for safety. This organization has crash tested harnesses that are sold as pet restraints for traveling. Those are some scary results as seen in our reply to Lolapug. CPS did not perform the test for the Pupsaver. In fact, on Twitter, CPS stated that they do not recommend any product that connects to a dog's harness.

The Pupsaver crash test was done by the MGA Research Corporation. This is a private company that does testing. They are a third party company that is often used by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, a federal organization.  However, CPS used the same laboratory (MGA) for testing harnesses, too. So in reply to the comment below, I (the human) am comfortable knowing that the same lab tested the harnesses and the Pupsaver. The harnesses (with the exception of Sleepypod Clickit) failed and that the Pupsaver passed.

Remember that there are two different things going on here. One is the testing of harnesses that claim to be travel restraints. For example, we had some that clicked into the seat belt snap. You can google dog seat belt harness and see what we are talking about. Those harnesses are the ones that the CPS tested. They did not test any car seats. They do not claim to test car seats.

Two, the Pupsaver is different in that the restraint is not the harness or collar. The protection of the dog is the clamshell of the Pupsaver. If you see the video, it catches the weight and keeps the dog from flying into the dash or the floorboards. The Pupsaver is kept in the car seat by the regular seat belt. So it only keeps the Pupsaver from moving forward. The strap inside the Pupsaver keeps the dog inside the clamshell of the Pupsaver only. Pupsaver has never claimed that the CPS did their testing. It states clearly on the website that the test was done by MGA.

I think the confusion comes from incorrect reporting by some blogs, news outlets and pet product companies. I've seen references to the CPS in the same story as Pupsaver, leading people to think that the CPS did the testing. As far as I can tell, Pupsaver has never claimed that. And in this highly litigious world, CPS would sue Pupsaver if they had claimed it.

Is it perfect? Probably not. It has not been tested in roll over accidents. But then again, roll over accidents make up a small percentage of the overall accidents each year. The clamshell feature will pull the top part down over the dog as the seat belt tightens which will help protect the dog from flying glass somewhat. At this point, I (the human) feel like this is the safest thing for my particular dogs. If I had dogs other than pugs, I would consider the Sleepypod Clickit for them. However, having lived with a pug with a collapsing trachea, I want to do everything I can to prevent any damage to the trachea. Even walking harnesses can damage a pug's trachea so that's why I am avoiding those. The harnesses my pugs do wear are low on the chest. And in the Pupsaver, they will not reach the length of the strap and be jerked back in an accident.

Every dog parent has to do their own homework and do what they can when it comes to pet safety. I did do my homework on this, and I am confident that I know what I bought. I bought the best possible option for my dogs. Not necessarily yours. Will it save their lives in a serious crash? Possibly not. But then again, my airbags may not save mine either if it's a bad enough crash. 

10 comments:

  1. We don't have car seats but I'm sure we need them!

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  2. Wow those are cool we hate our little box that mom makes us sit in we would rather drive on her lap.
    stella rose

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  3. those are pretty cool but Im pretty sure our car is too small for htem

    retro rover

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  4. Those look great!
    hugs
    Mr Bailey, Hazel & Mabel

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  5. Hi there lovely ladies! Looks like you are riding in style - and safety! Are you all going on a road trip soon?

    -Love,
    Sid.

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  6. My moms wish,, they could RETRAIN me to accept doggy seats,,, and not scream! Those look very nice!
    love
    tweedles

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  7. Ooooh, I've had this on my radar for Lola Pug, SFP. Are they safer than a seatbelt body harness that attaches to the child seat bolt? Maybe I can use this in tandem with Lola's existing seat belt.

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    1. The two restraints aren't really comparable. The harness restraint is more like a seat belt for humans in that it uses straps to stop forward movement. With the strap attached to the harness, the forward movement would be stopped when the end of the strap is reached. Depending on the length of the strap, that might not happen before a dog hit the dashboard or a front seat if she's in the back. And you still have to deal with the jerkiness of it. Mom's concern is that even with a harness, the pressure of the harness on the body might cause harm.
      The Pupsaver is different in that the dog in the seat will hit the Pupsaver cushion which is kept in place by the regular human seat belt. The harness (or collar) and strap inside the Pupsaver are only there to keep the dog inside the Pupsaver. So there's less chance for jerking the harness too hard against a throat. After watching these videos, mom went looking for something other than harnesses and seat belt straps for us. http://centerforpetsafety.org Although the Sleepypod is CPS certified now.

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    2. I contacted Center for pet safety about this pupsaver product recently because I had my doubts about their safety claims. I'm glad I did because I learned that these Pupsaver people are deceptively claiming they have passed crash testing when they have not. All they did was use a CPS dog in one test run. CPS said this product is not proven to be safe and should not market the product as being safe until they have proven so. I am so sick of these kinds of lies some manufacturers are spewing to us. Buyer beware! Contact CPS direct for more info.

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  8. Hello Southern Fried Pugs Readers -

    Ashleigh Bennett from PupSaver here. I feel the need to respond to the comment by pugolicious, as PupSaver is my family's company.
    The statement put forth by pugolicious is 100% false. CPS has never tested PupSaver (they do not have a dog car seat testing protocol) and we have NEVER used CPS dogs in any of our crash test runs at MGA Research Corporation.
    We have crash tested using a variation of the FMVSS 213 at MGA Research. The test was a success, as we contained the occupant and our materials held up under the extreme stress of the test. Results and videos available on our website.
    Please contact info@pupsaver.com with any comments or inquiries.
    And Pugolicious, please feel free to contact us so that we can discuss the misconceptions that you have of our product.
    We have a safety design engineer on our staff, with 20 years of experience in the infant car seat field, who would be happy to speak with you.

    Thank you,

    Ashleigh Bennett
    PupSaver
    info@pupsaver.com

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